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   Bradley at the Software Freedom Conservancy explains GPL enforcement: http://ur1.ca/7yzx5

   about a year ago from identi.ca at Mountain View, California, United States
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Software Freedom Conservancy

     Much discussion on !Conservancy's !GPL enforcement w/ lots of misconceptions. Some clarifications: ur1.ca/7yzx5 ur1.ca/7z050 ur1.ca/7z055

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @laforge (who appears to have deleted his identi.ca account) wrote a good !GPL enforcement blog post & I commented: http://ur1.ca/844xi

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I didn' t understand what #MisterWelt was saying about requesting C&CS - did he mean "not make a serious legal demand"?

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn to clarify, I mean #MisterWelt talking about requesting C&CS for separate works from those on which he holds copyright

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn "I'm going to keep enforcing ... until ∃ no developers left who want to enforce it" what if your enforcement has latter effect? #TNAT

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn out of curiosity who are the "copyleft opponents" you speak of in blog post? #VNAT

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn "copyright holders who enforce should approve all enforcement strategies" isn't that tautological?

     about a year ago
   • John Sullivan mlinksva

     "users ought demand freedom without © holder assent" @mlinksva hits bingo

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana,I was accused of enforcing w/out © holder assent. I've not done that,but I'm forced to defend myself vs !GPL equivalent of birthers

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, copyleft w/out enforcement is equivalent to a permissive license anyway. So I guess I don't see your point there.

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana , LWN.net

     @fontana, If you read the @lwnnet comment threads, I believe the answer to your question is IOTTMCO, don't you think? Thanks for the #troll.

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, I talked w/ #laforge about this. He believes no legal tools should be used to require all C&CS for all copylefted software.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana Free Software , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn #nat Still unsure. Seem like phantom copyleft opponents to some degree, unless you mean age-old anti-GPL forces in !fs world.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn tho as we've discussed there's serious issue whether #GPL should give downstream users legal remedy (some believe already does)

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana Free Software Foundation , Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn Stubborn religious insistence on nonsense like "GPL is not a contract" prevents serious exploration of copyleft reform !fsf

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn Consider effect on #GPL compliance if downstream users had C&CS remedy beyond complaining to upstream.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn I'm not completely convinced that an non-legally-enforced #GPL is entirely equivalent to #BSD. Doesn't explain reality.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn , Richard Fontana

     @bkuhn I lurk on http://ur1.ca/5qn2t mailing list. All the people there complaining about noncompliance are non-copyright holders.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn OK that's what I assumed #laforge must have meant

     about a year ago
   • lxoliva The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana couldn't GPLv4 grant downstream users power to hire attorney for © enforcement on their upstreams representing © holder?

     about a year ago
   • lxoliva The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana and require redistributors to recognize the legitimacy of the representation even if they failed to pass the license on?

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     I don't necessarily believe contractual remedies should be avoided. Brendan Scott doing interesting stuff w/ fraud law & !GPL in Australia.

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, stubborn insistence you mention isn't mine. If you'd help me enforce !GPL using contract remedies, I'm open to it. Volunteering?

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn IDNKT. Same Brendan Scott who suggested the #BSD license is copyleft, note. :-)

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn You face a bit of a problem here having said repeatedly that downstream claims are somehow impossible

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana The GNU General Public License , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn #GPLv4 could facilitate downstream source requests. Larry #Rosen wrote such license yet you guys had nothing but scorn for him.

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     @fontana, I'm sure I only said they aren't possible as © actions. As fraud, contract, or other actions, !GPL enforcement downstream may work

     about a year ago
   • Bradley M. Kuhn The GNU General Public License , Richard Fontana

     Seriously? That's your argument: Larry #Rosen should write #GPLv4? Remember always: I asked you to volunteer to help & you sent me to Larry.

     about a year ago
   • Richard Fontana Free Software , Bradley M. Kuhn

     @bkuhn Just sayin': Larry #Rosen wrote a !fs license where users have contractual remedy for #fail'ure to provide source.

     about a year ago